Oracle ACE’s speak
out against Foreign Visa Experts
The H1-B and O-1
Visa programs were created to help American companies find workers with
skills that are not available in the Unites States. Sadly, this is not the
case in the American Oracle industry, as highly-qualified American Oracle
professionals go unemployed while corporations hire
cheap overseas Visa workers.
In a 2008 Business week
It's True- There's Fraud in the H1-B Visa Program, Oracle Vice
President Robert Hoffman notes
that Visa fraud hurts corporations like Oracle, who follow the rules:
"U.S. employers who play by the rules of the H-1B
visa program are hurt when visas go to employers who don't,"
It should be noted that while Oracle Corporation
hires H1-B Visa workers, they
recruit their product developers from the most highly
competitive American universities:
"Unless you're coming out of
MIT, Stanford or another of a handful of brand-name tech universities,
you're very likely out of luck. Better go try MySQL or IBM instead.
Oracle recruits "top
candidates" for product development from MIT, Stanford, CMU (likely
Carnegie Mellon University), Princeton, Wisconsin, Yale, Dartmouth,
Brown, Caltech, Berkeley, Harvard and Cornell."
The latest Oracle visa
abusers are self-proclaimed foreign Oracle experts, coming to
America to work by exaggerating their science qualifications to get
fraudulent O-1 scientist visas. Scott Adams talks about European
computer impostors in his strip
Dilbert where he talks about posers from the fictional
European country of Elbonia:
unemployment at record highs, Oracle's 2009 salary survey still
indicates that the average experienced American Oracle DBA earns over
$100,000 per year.
These salaries are
very tempting for unqualified posers from developing nation
who suffer from much higher unemployment and earn about half the
salary of their American counterparts:
by global region: Source: Oracle Corporation
The Oracle ACE
Community has been quite vocal on this issue of cheap foreign Oracle
experts in America.
Oracle ACE's speak out
Oracle ACE Lewis
Cunningham notes that he is opposed to the Visa programs because he
feels that they impose
unfair competition from foreign Oracle experts, many of whom work for
less than their American counterparts
. In his article
H1-B pay draws down salaries he notes that foreign Oracle workers
drive-down American salaries:
“I am opposed to
multi-nationals using that program to drive down wages.
I don't buy the argument
that the companies can't find qualified employees, they just can't
find qualified employees willing to work for less than what the job is
Bringing in cheap labor
makes the job worth less.
The H-1B program, is by law, a backup system where
employers can find employees, whom they must pay fairly (at prevailing
wages), when they cannot find US citizens at the same, fair rate.
Companies ARE abusing that. They are abusing it by
paying the people who are here as H-1Bs lower wages. That means that
some employers will break the law (by falsely filing an LCA claiming
they are paying prevailing wages) and abuse foreigners to save a few
By doing that, they are using the H-1B program as
their primary source of employees and are generally lowering the wages
of others in that industry.
The program either needs to be fixed (by
penalizing the abusers) or scrapped. "
Oracle ACE Ben
Prusinski agrees that H1-B Visa workers routinely fake their real work experience and
he notes that many foreign Oracle workers are exploited by American
"I agree with the other
folks on H-1B visas that cram to pass OCP exams and lack real
experience and communication skills. . .
To me, the H-1B visa
program has been severely abused by employers for cheap labor."
Oracle ACE, Dr. Daniel Morgan, (who claims to
be a professor at the University of Washington and hold a
Ph.D. from Stanford University), published these comments about
American Visa Fraud in a forum titled
Resume fraud in IT. Morgan notes that foreign nationals have
issues with poor communications skills and many fail to comprehend
basic business processes:
"Speaking as one who has interviewed many hundreds in
the U.S. there is no question that fraud exists ... both with
nationals and foreign nationals. And both with respect to resumes,
references, and education.
My feeling about references can be summed up as
follows: "Anyone that can't find three friends to lie for him or her
is a pathetic soul. My feeling with respect to resumes and education
claims doesn't deviate far from that mark. . .
The one problem that does profoundly affect many
foreign developers (from any country) is their understanding not just
of the language but of how business rules are created, used, and built
into software. And that is something you just can not learn in a
Let's take a closer look at Visa abuse by alien Oracle
professionals in America.
Inside the O-1 Visa scam
While it's estimated
that upwards of 20% of all H1-B Visa workers use
fraudulent credentials and qualifications to obtain their Visas,
one of the greatest Visa fraud in the Oracle industry is the O-1 Visa
program, a Visa designed exclusively for “Aliens with Extraordinary Ability”.
Aliens with extraordinary ability are quite rare
The O-1 program is is a
widely-abused Visa that was designed exclusively for exceptional
scientists whose skills are not available in the United States.
The criteria for the O-1 Visa specifically mentions Nobel
Prize winners, but it might also include Rhodes Scholars and
internally-known computer scientists, famous folks like Linus Torvalds (the inventor
of Linux) and Bjarne Stroustrup (the scientist who created C++).
easy to spot an O-1 impostor working with Oracle in America:
O-1 impostors will purchase vanity accolades from the
Biographical Centre in England or the
American Biographical Institute in Raleigh, where they can purchase the “Noble
Prize” (That’s “Noble”, not “Nobel”), and the
The O-1 Visa is exclusively for distinguished scientists, so the
O-1 impostors will try to convince people that Oracle is a science!
They will sometimes come-up with ridiculous titles like
All real Oracle experts are proud of their accomplishments and
they proudly display their resume.
In contrast, a poser will take great pains to hide their
true qualifications and credentials, lest they be exposed.
Visa fraud is a
serious crime, punishable by up to 10 years in prison and a fine of
$250,000. If you suspect that a foreign Oracle professional has
misrepresented their qualifications and credentials to obtain a Visa
fraudulently, you can report any suspected O-1 Visa fraud to this
Division, Visa Fraud
U.S. Department of State
2201 C Street NW
Washington, DC 20520